Curse

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 02:37 PM // 14:37

This is a coding i made while bored at school so i thought i'd share it with yall and see how difficult it is ^.^

it's a layered code

i started with a basic xxxx code, modified it, then added a
xxxx sequence which makes it utterly impossible to understand unless i told you exactly what each letter of the aplhabet is, and how to unlock the sequence

Clues-
1.-There are two parts to the coding
2.-The number of characters and letters of the total message is the second clue
3.-The second clue was the number of characters/letters, which is 36
36 is what kind of number?
3.5-4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169, 196, 225, . . .
4.-perfect square, there is a sequence/code that was used in the ancient times that involved this, look it up on the internet if you don't know what it is already

The Message:
QIBM IDNV EVDM GZQG MLWM AWAQ CIBC WBKL EPT.

crack out the snacks and juices because it took most of my friends 20 minutes, with me giving extra clues for them to figure it out!

Synthos · Oct 19, 2005, 02:55 PM // 14:55

no cause im stupid :/

LeftAlone- · Oct 19, 2005, 02:57 PM // 14:57

what friends?

sorry..couldn't resist.. lol

Don't take that seriously.. Im just bored..^^

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Yeah i made one too

try to figure this one out

Hint.. there are no lowercase letters

QAZW PLMN OKBJ ESXC RDVB FGHYUI.

yeah mine doesn't mean anything.. we're gonna need more clues for yours.

huh · Oct 19, 2005, 04:39 PM // 16:39

The message is:
"there is no message"

Did I get it right?
I know all these little tricks...got really bored when I was in school too.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

clues moved to top

EDIT: no that is not the message huh.

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_lildude1

CLUE #3, the second clue was the number of characters/letters, which is 36

36 is what kind of number?

CLUE #3.5
4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100,121,144,169, 196, 225, . . .

EDIT: no that is not the message huh.

yeah that screwed me up.. spaces are technically characters.

More clues.. i think im onto it.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

1. my definition of characters is letters/numbers/symbols (no spaces)

2. 1 clue a day, otherwise it'd be too easy

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_lildude1

1. my definition of characters is letters/numbers/symbols (no spaces)

2. 1 clue a day, otherwise it'd be too easy

Well thats no fun.. I'll see what i can do with it.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 08:29 PM // 20:29

it took me 10 minutes to make the code
and it took me 30 minutes to translate my message into the code

it is and will be hard, i made it for that specific reason

your just stuck on the first 1/3 of the code, which is the easiest, so expect harder stuff to come

not even at the hard part yet ^.^

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I dont think im stuck on anything, i think i just have no clue.

I have some guesses though.. but have no idea how accurate they are. I'm not going to spend a 1/2 hour translating something if its just a guess.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

then you've answered my question on how hard it is, because you just quit

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_lildude1

then you've answered my question on how hard it is, because you just quit

Codes are supposed to be hard. It could be any number of somethings that involve math to get one number that you would apply to the alphabet. So far with yours i thought of a few things that could possibly be applied to the alphabet, but i don't think its that simple.. plus i've made nothing out with either of them.

What do you mean by two parts?

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

it's a layered code

i started with a basic xxxx code, modified it, then added a
xxxx sequence which makes it utterly impossible to understand unless i told you exactly what each letter of the aplhabet is, and how to unlock the sequence

Lasareth · Oct 19, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

And at this point, the number of permutations which could lead to a solution is huge. If there is no reasoning behind your arbitrary assignment of number-to-letter then nobody can solve it short of luck until later on.

So why taunt us

Sir Skullcrasher · Oct 19, 2005, 09:19 PM // 21:19

come on lildude.. make it easier for us noobz that isn't good at coding

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

hint.

there are no numbers in the message, or anywhere in the coding, who thought of that whacky idea?

the only number which is 36, is the amount of letters and the one period in the message

i said, THINK about that number, the hint i gave with the series of numbers should be a dead giveaway

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Okay.. so, 36 is a perfect square, we know that.. 6x6=36, so either the number we're looking for is 6, or 4 (a square has 4 sides). therefore A=E B=F, etc or A=G, B=H, etc OR we could work backwards.. A=V, B=X, or A=T, B=U.

Or a combination of both.. plus it could be scrambled, or could be read by the first letter in each word, second, third, fourth.

like Lasareth said.. there are too many combinations that make it worth attempting at this point even.. and it might not even be what you're talking about.

This is why we have machines to break codes.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 19, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

i doubt a machine could even brute this

btw you hit the word i was looking for waffle

perfect square, there is a sequence/code that was used in the ancient times that involved this, look it up on the internet if you don't know what it is already

Platinum Agent · Oct 20, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

argh, cant figure it out, wow, its 10:30 pm over here, im taking a nap, early day tomorrow for school